Apart maar gelyk

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Hello,

Dit sal nie verregaande wees om te beweer daar is nog steeds ‘n hunkering daarna in hierdie land van ons onder ‘n gedeelte van die bevolking nie. Die refrein is bekend, parke was skoon, die strate het nie na urine geruik nie en daar kon veilig rond gegaan word. Sunnyside was die ou Sunnyside. Dit was die goeie ou dae en hoe word dit nie gemis nie. Vir die rekord ek bevind my nie in Sunnyside nie maar wel in ‘n sekuriteitskompleks.

Die VSA het natuurlik sy eie ervaring met die beginsel van “apart maar gelyk” gehad soos vasgevang in die hofsaak van Plessy v Ferguson van 1896 wat die volgende bevind het en dan dink die Afrikaner hy was eerste daar.

Plessy v Ferguson (1896):

Laws permitting, and even requiring, their separation in places where they are liable to be brought into contact do not necessarily imply the inferiority of either race to the other, and have been generally, if not universally, recognized as within the competency of the state legislatures in the exercise of their police power.

Every exercise of the police power must be reasonable, and extend only to such laws as are enacted in good faith for the promotion for the public good, and not for the annoyance or oppression of a particular class.

In determining the question of reasonableness, it is at liberty to act with reference to the established usages, customs, and traditions of the people, and with a view to the promotion of their comfort and the preservation of the public peace and good order. Gauged by this standard, we cannot say that a law which authorizes or even requires the separation of the two races in public conveyances is unreasonable…

We consider the underlying fallacy of the plaintiff’s argument to consist in the assumption that the enforced separation of the two races stamps the colored race with a badge of inferiority. If this be so, it is not by reason of anything found in the act, but solely because the colored race chooses to put that construction upon it.

Hoekom word hierdie nou weer opgediep. Kan die verlede maar nie laat gaan word nie. Kan ons nie in terme van pop-sielkunde “closure” vind nie sodat daar aanbeweeg kan word.

Die rede vir hierdie skrywe is die ontwikkeling wat nou plaasvind in Israel:

Die Washington Post rapporteer dit soos volg:

New bus lines for Palestinians, created at the urging of Jewish settler leaders in the West Bank, have sparked a debate over segregation in Israel and refocused attention on the inequalities that govern Palestinians and Israelis in the territory. The two new lines began operating on Monday, ferrying Palestinian day laborers commuting between the West Bank and blue-collar jobs in Tel Aviv. Previously, those Palestinians commuted via a series of private minibuses—whose fares are far higher than on the new public bus lines—or on public bus lines serving primarily Jewish settlers in the northern West Bank.
Klink dit nie bekend nie.

Die reaksie was verdoemend:

"Separate but equal?" asked Israel's centrist daily Yediot Ahranot newspaper on Monday. "On the bus to Israeli apartheid," read an editorial headline in the left-of-center Haaretz paper.

Maar daar is niks soos “spin” nie:

Both Jewish Israelis and Palestinians can still ride on both the new and the old lines, said Israel's Minister of Transportation Yisrael Katz, a conservative stalwart within Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud Party. That means they are not legally segregated, he says.

West Bank Palestinians vie to take a new bus service begun Monday to reach their jobs in Israel. Critics say it smacked of segregation; the government said it only added travel options.

"Adding new bus lines servicing Palestinian areas is not segregation," a Katz spokesman said. "Anyone can ride on any bus. There are now just more buses."

OK, so wat is dan aan die gang?

Hierdie kan dan in die konteks gelees van ’n artikel wat voorheen in Haaretz gepubliseer was:

The study, headed by Tel Aviv University Professor Camil Fuchs, found that Jewish Israeli citizens would overwhelmingly supported an apartheid regime were the territories in Judea and Samaria annexed, meaning that they would to see Israeli Arabs get different and worse treatment systematically in civil society than Israeli Jews. Importantly, most Israeli Jews responded that they would not want to see the annexing, but were it to take place, they viewed certain segregation favorably.

The majority of the Jewish public, 59 percent, wants preference for Jews over Arabs in admission to jobs in government ministries. Almost half the Jews, 49 percent, want the state to treat Jewish citizens better than Arab ones; 42 percent don’t want to live in the same building with Arabs and 42 percent don’t want their children in the same class with Arab children. A third of the Jewish public wants a law barring Israeli Arabs from voting for the Knesset and a large majority of 69 percent objects to giving 2.5 million Palestinians the right to vote if Israel annexes the West Bank.

A sweeping 74 percent majority is in favor of separate roads for Israelis and Palestinians in the West Bank. A quarter – 24 percent – believe separate roads are “a good situation” and 50 percent believe they are “a necessary situation.”

Almost half – 47 percent – want part of Israel’s Arab population to be transferred to the Palestinian Authority and 36 percent support transferring some of the Arab towns from Israel to the PA, in exchange for keeping some of the West Bank settlements.

Dan nog steeds word Israel as ’n voorbeeld vir navolging hier gebied.

Hopelik sal sulke gedagtes nou met ’n sak sout geneem word.

Baie dankie

Wouter

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  • 'n Hunkering waarna?  Dat Sunnyside weer veilig is en nie na urine ruik nie?  As dit is wat jy bedoel hunker almal daarna, nie net 'n gedeelte van die bevolking soos jy in jou openingsparagraaf beweer nie.

  • Dag Wouter,

    jy noem die woord 'spin". Jy het egter self 'n "spin" op jou weergawe geplaas. Min mense weet iets van die geskiedenis van Israel en die Arabiere wat hulself Palestyne noem, hul geskiedenis, hul aansprake ens, so dit is baie maklik om Israel te beskuldig en in 'n swak lig te plaas.

    Wanneer jy weer sulke briewe skryf, noem dan ook hoeveel vuurpyle die Palestyne die afgelope jaar in Israel ingeskiet het, noem hoeveel "resolusies" die VVO teen Israel verklaar en hoeveel teen die Palestynse terroriste. Ons kan aangaan en aangaan.

    Ek vra, Wouter, dat jy objektief en regverdig praat.

    Shalom

    Duitswester

  • Ai Jan, daar is jy nou al weer moedswillig ...

     
    Dit is mos duidelik, apart maar gelyk, jy hier en ek daar ...
     
     
  • George Bekker

    Wouter, dit is nie die eerste keer nie, dat jy 'n eienaardige tendens toon, nl om 'n tyd lank heeltemal weg te raak en dan skielik SêNet met briewe te oorval. Mag ek uit blote nuuskierigheid vra wat is die oorsaak van hierdie verskynsel?
    George

  • Hello George, 

     
    Dit is maar grootliks te doen met werksdruk - die afgelope ruk is my werkgewer met die uitrol van 'n nuwe stelsel besig en is daar nou 'n stil tyd tot en met hier 19 Maart 2013 se koers en dan word nuwe datums vir die jaar vasgemaak. Dit sal dan weer baie minder tyd laat. 
     
    Baie Dankie
     
    Wouter
     
  • Hello Duitswester, 

    Dit is baie moeilik om 'n houvas op die gebeure in Israel te kry as 'n buitestaander soos myself en is deeglik bewus van die gevaar wat Hamas bied en die vuurpyle wat by die duisend afgevuur is teen Israel in die vorige rondte.Netanyahu dui gedurig aan dat hy oop is vir gesprek maar beide groepering kom voor as hardkoppig en is dit dalk 'n goeie teken dat Netanyahu se steun in die verkiesing afgekom het en dat die meer gematigde kiesers in die middel gekies het en dat die koalisie wat nou gevorm moet dalk meer oop sal wees vir onderhandelinge. 

    Objektief en regverdig is inderdaad  die uitdaging. 

    Onthou dus ook hoe die fondasie van Israel by die 750 000 Palestynse burgers verplaas het as vlugtelinge en die grondslag wat dit bied vir dekades se konflik. 

    Ehud Olmert het in 'n onderhoud met Charlie Rose in Desember 2012 aangedui hoe naby daar aan 'n skikking gekom was, met die steun van George Bush in die agtergrond. 

     
    Dit plaas dan weer die probleem by die leierskap. 
     
    Netanyahu is 'n harde neut om te kraak en het selfs al vir Obama die koue skouer gegee. 
     
    Apartheid in die meningsopname en dan in 'n verkiesing word die meer gematigde kandidate gestem voor? 
     
    So ja, wat gaan aan? 
     
    Baie dankie
     
    Wouter
     
  • Hello, 

    Aangesien die aspek van die gesprek gedraai het na die aspek van die konflik tussen Israel en Palestina kan die volgende wat nou oor my tafel gekom het in verband met hierdie kwessie geplaas het ook geplaas word: 
     
    In die opdatering  word die werk van Dennis Ross gevolg: 
     
    Dennis B. Ross is a counselor to the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, who was the United States’ chief negotiator for the Arab-Israeli conflict from 1993 to 2001 and a special assistant to the president for the Middle East and South Asia from 2009 to 2011.

    Wat Palestina kan doen: 

    Be willing to speak of two states for two peoples and to acknowledge there are two national movements and two national identities. 

    Pledge to put Israel on Palestinian maps. Today, most Palestinian maps don’t show Israel at all. They do often show Israeli settlements in the West Bank. 

    Commit to ending incitement; stop glorifying as martyrs those who kill Israelis; stop blaming Israel for every evil; stop denying the Jewish connection to Jerusalem. 

    Prepare the Palestinian public for peace; Yasir Arafat used to speak about the “peace of the brave.” Declare that the peace of the brave means that both sides, not only Israel, have hard decisions to make for peace.

    Make clear the commitment to building the state of Palestine, without encroaching on Israel, with a particular focus on the rule of law.

    Address the question that Mahmoud Abbas once posed: where does it say that Palestinians should live in squalid conditions? 

    In the West Bank, this would mean building permanent housing in refugee camps and that those families who wished to move out of the camps would be permitted to do so. 

    Wat Israel kan doen:  

    Declare that Israel will build new housing only in settlement blocks and in areas to the west of the security barrier. 

    This means that Israel would build only in about 8 percent of the West Bank and no longer in the remaining 92 percent. 

    Be prepared to offer compensation to any Israeli settler ready to relocate to Israel or to designated blocks.

    Commit to beginning the construction of housing within Israel or the blocks for all those settlers ready to relocate.

    Die kaart ka nie geplaas word, maar sal die beginsel hopelik duidelik wees: 

    In “Area A,” which accounts for 18.2 percent of the West Bank’s territory and in which the Palestinians have civil and security responsibility, the Israel Defense Forces still carry out incursions for security reasons. Because these operations are a reminder of Israeli control and grate on the Palestinians, the I.D.F. could specify clear security criteria, which, if met by the Palestinian Authority, would end the incursions.

    In “Area B,” which covers 21.7 percent of the West Bank and in which Palestinians have responsibility for civil affairs and for law and order — but not for dealing with terrorism — the presence of Palestinian police and security forces, and their duties, would be allowed to increase.

    In “Area C,” which represents 60.1 percent of the West Bank’s territory and in which Israel retains civil and security responsibility, Palestinians would be permitted economic access, activity and ownership.

    Wat gesamentlik gedoen kan word: 

    Commit to an exchange of classrooms or regular youth exchanges starting as early as third grade. The complete absence of contact now means that children on each side are being socialized to demonize and dehumanize the other. 

    Publicly acknowledge when the other side does something positive. 

    For example, the Israeli government should acknowledge that the Palestinian security forces do their job professionally and fulfill their obligations. 

    And the Palestinian Authority should acknowledge when Israel has helped it meet its obligations by advancing tax revenues early, or that Jerusalem’s Hadassah hospital treats Palestinians in need at no cost.
     
    As 'n absolute desperate poging kan Salomo opgeroep word as 'n spesiale adviseur. 
     
    Baie Dankie
     
    Wouter
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