Louis Crompton se oevre

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Louis Crompton se oevre, " Homosexuality and Civilization", is ‘n goudmyn vir sielkundiges, historici, en sosioloë, geïnteresseerd, en betrokke by hierdie sigbare onderwerp vandag in die Westerse wêreld. Die geskiedenis hiervan behoort veral vir die denkende Afrikaner te interesseer weens sy Calvinistiese tradisie. Die volgende het juis plaasgevind in Calvinistiese Holland.

Die volgende sitate illustreer die onderwerp onder bespreking:

In the eighteenth century the Dutch Republic challenged England´s proud boast that it was the freest country in Europe. Despite clerical opposition, Spinoza published biblical studies challenging the very bases of Christianity, and many of the most radical authors of the Enlightenment found publishers in The Hague or Amsterdam. Superstition too seemed to have abated: the last burning for witchcraft had taken place in 1595; such trials did not end in England until 1712 and in France until 1718. Given this record of toleration, it is an irony of history that the most deadly persecution of homosexuals known to us before Hitler took place in the Netherlands in the eighteenth century.

The persecution of 1730 provoked a reign of terror that lasted in the Netherlands for more than a year. The spectacle of men hanged, burned, and drowned in city after city spread fear far and wide. The anxiety of apprehension, the strain of standing trial, the agony of torture, the pangs of death on the scaffold or in the dungeons of prisons where men sentenced to the stake were first strangled, the indignity of seeing friends´ bodies treated as refuse to be burned or thrown into the sea; all these were part of a repulsive national ordeal. Nowhere, however, were the horrors of the panic so potently realized as in the small village of Faan, in the northeastern province of Groningen.

 

Hierdie vervolging van homoseksuele in Holland het plaasgevind, en ‘n hoogtepunt bereik, teen ‘n agtergrond van ekonomiese ondergang na die vorige luisterryke periode, vandag  bekend as Holland se "Goue Eeu". Die teoloë van daardie tyd het gereken dat die ongekende welvaart wat die land ervaar het het ook gelei tot die sonde van sodomie, en dit was die rede vir die land se ekonomiese ondergang. Homoseksuele is uitgekryt as "sataniese vuilgoed", en sodomie beskou as ‘n Roomse sameswering om ‘n einde te bring aan die Reformasie in Nederland. Die tekste van die Ou Testament, nl dié van Levitikus, was gebruik as basisteks vir wette om straf mee uit te deel (die doodstraf deur verbranding).

Soos in die geval van Venesië in the vyftiende-eeu was Nederland ook ‘n suksesvolle kommersiële "empire" wat ‘n skielike katastrofe gevrees het op die skaal van Noag se vloed. Hierdie mite was die basis vir hierdie diepliggende vrees en paranoia. 

The gevolg van hierdie ongehoorde brutaliteit het opslae veroorsaak in die internasionale pers:

News of executions on this scale made an international sensation. French, English, Irish, German, and even colonial American newspapers were full of the scandal and reported the arrival of fleeing refugees. The English press, hardly favorable to sodomites, nevertheless accused Dutch tribunals of procedures that might jeopardize the innocent. The states of Holland sent formal protests asking the English government to suppress the newspapers, but the charge that stung most sharply - that Dutch courts imitated the Inquisition in their use of torture - could hardly be denied, since this was routine in sodomy cases.

Hierdie gee vir ons ‘n smakie hoe ons Cavinistiese broers in Holland met homoseksuele in die verlede gewerk het. Danksy die groot filosofiese strominge van Frankryk (Voltaire en Diderot), Skotland, Engeland, Duitsland en Frankryk, bekend as die "Eeu van Verligting en Rede" , het die Europese wetgewers geleidelik die onsinnigheid begin begryp om straf uit te meet volgens Bybeltekste, en die Code Napoleon het die doodstraf vir homoseksualiteit die finale nekslag gegee.

Pieter Redelinghuys

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  • My bydrae tot spoeg en plak.
    Jaco Fourie

    As of 1730, the Dutch Republic had just experienced an epizootic disease in its cattle population, while its dikes were threatened by shipworm. Several disasters had hit the country: the flooding of Stavoren in 1657, the collapse of the Dom Church's spire in 1674 and the earthquake of 1692 were all ascribed to divine wrath.[1] These circumstances had readied the minds of the Dutch for moral panics, and the homosexual part of the population became their scapegoat.[citation needed]

    The ruins of the Dom Church's nave had for years been a meeting place for homosexuals when in April 1730,[2] the city authorities started an investigation at the request of the Dom's sacristan, Josua Wils.[4] A number of men, including a Zacharias Wilsma,[1] were arrested and interrogated. Their confessions indicated the presence of networks and meeting places of homosexuals elsewhere in the Republic. In July of the same year, Holland followed suit[2] and a nation-wide wave of prosecutions ensued; several men in high positions were suspected, but fled before they could be arrested. In Utrecht, some forty men were tried,[3] of whom 18 were convicted and strangled. Other punishments included hanging and drowning in a barrel of water. The convicts' remains were either burnt, cast into the sea or buried under the gallows.[2] Of the trials outside of Utrecht, those in the village of Zuidhorn acquired particular infamy.

  • Hello Pieter,

     
     'a long and winding road' 
     
    Jy het al voorheen verwys na Der Spiegel. Dit is een van my gunsteling publikasies en is dit van uitstaande kwaliteit en besoek ek dit daagliks maar het 'n paar dae gemis hierdie week en is besig om op te vang. Daarom dan die volgende aangesien oor die verloop van eeue Holland weer opduik in die gesprek. 
     
    Baie dankie
     
    Wouter. 
     
    Shelter in Europe
    Court Orders Asylum for Persecuted Gays
     
    An EU court ruled Thursday that gays and lesbians persecuted in other countries have the right to asylum in Europe, as long as they fulfill certain conditions. The decision came in a case involving three African men seeking safe haven in the Netherlands.The European Union's high court in Luxembourg ruled Thursday that refugees who face prosecution in their home countries because of homosexual acts have the right to asylum in the EU.
     
    The case heard by the European Court of Justice centered around three gay men from Sierra Leone, Uganda and Senegal who had unsuccessfully fought to be given refugee status in the Netherlands. 
     
    Homosexuality is a prosecutable crime in each of those countries, the court noted, with serious punishments that can include heavy fines or even life imprisonment in some cases.
     
    The court overturned the Dutch decision.Justices in Luxembourg have now ruled that gays and lesbians represent "social groups" in accordance with the Geneva Convention on refugees' rights. 
     
    The court also found "it is a common ground that a person's sexual orientation is a characteristic so fundamental to his identity that he should not be forced to renounce it." 
     
    (hierdie lewer ook kommentaar oor sekere kerke wat aandrang op 'n selibate lewe vir die aanvaarding van homoseksuele persone)
     
    The court also said that "the existence of criminal laws specifically targeting homosexuals supports a finding that those persons form a separate group which is perceived by the surrounding society as being different."
     
    The court also held that national asylum authorities cannot expect that a refugee "should conceal his homosexuality in his country of origin or exercise restraint in expressing it" in order to avoid persecution. It argued this was "incompatible" with the "recognition of a characteristic so fundamental to a person's identity that the persons concerned cannot be required to renounce it.
     
    "The Dutch Immigration and Naturalization Service had argued one could expect foreigners to exercise greater restraint in public about their homosexuality in their country of origin.
     
    Advocate General Eleanor Sharpston had argued in court in July that the EU must provide protection for gays and lesbians facing persecution, but that the threat of prosecution for homosexual acts in their country of origin alone was not grounds for granting asylum. Instead, she argued, national authorities must review whether it is probable that an asylum-seeker would actually be persecuted as a result of his or her sexual orientation or whether the sum of "diverse measures" would violate that person's human rights.
     
    The judges in Luxembourg concurred with Sharpston's arguments in their ruling. 
     
    In order for a violation of fundamental rights to constitute persecution within the meaning of the Geneva Convention, the court stated, "it must be sufficiently serious." The court said it was up to the national authorities in member states in which the asylum application is submitted to make that determination.According to the ruling, the existence of legislating criminalizing homosexual acts alone is not a sufficient violation of the rights of gays and lesbians to require the granting of asylum. It ruled that EU member states would only be required to provide asylum if imprisonment in each of the countries of origin "is actually applied."
     
    Human rights organizations say that gays and lesbians are persecuted in many African countries. Homosexuality is explicitly banned in the laws of 38 countries, according to Amnesty International.
     
  • Pieter Redelinghuys

    Beste Jaco,

     

    Yahweh het blykbaar heeltemal beserk geraak met die vernietiging van die Dom Kerk se toorn ('n smakie van die "toorn van die Here") en andere katastrofes wat plaasgevind het in Nederland in die 18-de eeu. Nou wonder ek wat op aarde the arme mense van die Philippyne aangevang het om "die toorn van die Here" te verdien, en watter slagoffers hulle moet maak om te vergeld vir die skokkende verwoesting wat n tifoon meegebring het. Honderdeduisende mans, vrouens en kinders het hulle klein pandokkies verloor, en is dood in die proses.

     

    Aan die ander kant, Yahweh voel seker in sy noppies met die huidige Nederland, en veral met die Amsterdam van vandag, sedert dit die "gay" hoofstad van Europa geword het.

     

    De wegen des Heere zijn heel mysterieus.

     

    Terloops, daar bestaan 'n gereëlde skywer op SêNet wat 'n klompie jare gelede skoon verheugd was oor die aarbewing op Haiti wat duisende mense se lewens geëis het, en die rede wat hy aangevoer het was dat hulle Roomse Katolieke was wat alleen hulle gatte blinkgeskuur het op die kerkbanke. Hierdie skrywer was ook geweldig ingenome oor jong mense wat doodgeskied is in 'n Tel Aviv gayklub so 5 jaar gelede. In beide gevalle was hierdie strafuitmeting in akkoord met sy Ou Testamentgod en verdienbaar.

     

    Kan jy ooit vir 'n oomblik indink aan die tipe barbaarse gemeenskap mens sal moet verduur as persone van hierdie instelling ooit posisies van mag sal beklee.

     

    Beste groete,

     

    Pieter Redelinghuys

     

     

  • Pieter Redelinghuys

    Beste Wouter,

     

    Dankie vir die terugvoer. Die EU kan hom nou gerus gereed maak vir 'n stortvloed van asielsoekers uit Afrika wat oornag gaan "gay" word om voordeel te trek uit die vrygewige Europese sosiale voorsienigheid.

     

    Die anti-sodomiewette in Afrika is 'n oorblyfsel, en geskenk, van die Britse Imperiale Administrasie wat behep was om die Westerse beskawing, en die Christendom, uit die loop van 'n kanon, aan minderwaardige rasse en skepsels te bring. Trouens, ek vermoed dat die anti-sodomiewette juis bedoel was om die Britse koloniale amptenare af te skrik van daardie mooi bruin eksotiese liggame, van Egipte, Indië, Malesië en Hong Kong.

     

    Ha!Ha!Ha!

     

    Beste groete,

     

    Pieter Redelinghuys

  • Hello Pieter, 

     
    Daardie mooi bruin eksotiese liggame.....Kan ek maar net beaam, jare terug het ek 'n boyfriend gehad vanaf daardie omstreke, werksaam in die ambassade in Pretoria en het ons ontmoet in 'n bekende boekwinkel soos verwag kan word. 
     
    Maar hy moes terug 'n paar jaar na die val van Suharto....('n voormalige kolonie van die Hollanders). 
     
    Ek onthou hoe ek nog help pak het die aand voor hy die oggend terug gevlieg het
     
    Nogal hartseer in sekere opsigte. Want eers later het ek besef hoe erg die politieke toestand in Indonesië was. 

     
    Baie dankie
     
    Wouter
  • Pieter Redelinghuys

    Beste Wouter,

     

    Dankie vir jou mooi storie. Geen wonder die Hollanders van ouds het Indonesië as 'n paradys op aarde beskou en hulle bereid sou wees om hulle oumas te verkoop om daar uit te kom.

     

    Groete,

     

    Pieter Redelinghuys

  • Hello Pieter, 

     
    En na hierdie uit die vergetelheid ontruk is was ek vandag werklik mismoedig, weens my gebrek aan kennis van die omstandighede in sy tuisland op daardie stadium en dat daar geen gesprek was oor sy veiligheid nie en of daar enige alternatiewe was nie. 
     
    Ek kan maar net wonder en hoop dat die oorgang hom nie negatief getref het en dat hy nou floreer en wel is. 
     
    Onmoontlik om hom nou te spoor maar het ek tog doelloos by die werk 'n gevoel probeer kry oor die omstandighede vir gays daar deur na die webwerwe te kyk.  
     
    So ja ek was dom.......(het te min geweet)
     
    Beste wense
     
    Wouter
  • Pieter Redelinghuys

     

    Beste Wouter,

     

    My raad is as volg: Stap na die Ambassade van Indonesië in Pretoria en doen navraag oor jou vriend. As mens eens vir die Buitelandse Diens gewerk het moet hulle tog rekord hou van vorige werknemers. So het ek  'n persoon opgespoor waarmee ek kontak verloor het deur na die Britse Ambassade te gaan, en navraag gedoen. As jou poging niks oplewer nie, het jy altans probeer.

     

    So vêr my kennis strek het die meegang van Suharto geen probleme opgelewer nie. Hy was regtig 'n bastard en gedurende sy tyd het omtrent 1 miljoen Indonesiërs hulle lewens verloor. Dit was 'n vreeslike tyd gedurende die 70-jare. Die CIA het 'n groot "finger in the pie" gehad, en Suharto gesteun met wapens van die VSA.

     

    Sukarno wou aanvanklik die oliebronne in Indonesië nasionaliseer. Die VSA het omtrent 90% van alle produksie beheer en die volk het niks van daardie inkomste geniet nie. Dus was hy 'n groot doring in die vlees van die VSA wat hom as 'n kommunis gebrandmerk het. Hulle het gesorg dat hy vermoor word en hulle "puppet" Suharto het president geword. Die gevolg was 'n bloedbad. Die weermag het van dorp tot dorp gegaan en onskuldige mans, vrouens en kinders vermoor. 

     

    As jy ooit die geleentheid kry moet jy die eiland van Bali besoek. Dit is blykbaar hemel op aarde. Dalk kan jou  vriend jou soontoe neem wanneer jy hom opgespoor het.

     

    Beste groete,

     

    Pieter Redelinghuys

  • Hello Pieter, 

     
    Dit is 'n idee wat absoluut briljant is, maar voel ek op hierdie stadium dit is 'n paar jaar te laat. Wat ek egter nie ontken nie, sou dit nie hemels gewees het vir so 'n oomblik in Bali nie. Dit was die stappe wat ek moes geneem onmiddellik na die tyd.....
     
    (Dit lyk darem ook asof gay persone redelik veilig is en nie vervolg word nie, met wetgewing wat teen hulle gestel is nie, dit lyk ook asof dit 'aanvaar' word so lank dit diskreet is en ook asof baie trou vir die skyn, ek vermoed soms dat hy hier vrye teuels gehad het, want ek het nooit sy kollegas, amptelik ontmoet nie, alhoewel ek tog eendag saam met die groep van Hatfield gery het en by my woonstel afgelaai was en alles was koel en kalm....)
     
    Waarmee ek saamstem is dat Suharto nie 'n groot demokraat was nie en is die land indien reg verstaan goed op pad.
     
    Regrets.... I have a few.....
     
    Baie dankie vir hierdie.... dit was lank weg, dit was tog goed om dit weer af te stof....
     
    Beste wense
     
    Wouter
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