Die metodes wat deur darwiniste gebruik word om hulle datering van fossiele te doen, is só misleidend en gebrekkig, dat mens daar geen erns aan kan hê, nie.
Só is daar gefossileerde hout naby Banbury in Engeland gedateer met die gewilde en bekende C-14 metode en die ouderdom daarvan op tussen 20700 en 28800 jaar vasgestel, maar die kalkbank waarin dit gevind is, is sommer gedateer as 183miljoen jaar oud!
Dan is daar diamante wat gedateer is as 55,700 jaar oud, maar die rotslae waarin dit gevind is, is gedateer om tussen 1000 en 3000 miljoen jaar oud te wees!
Hier is nóg ’n tipiese voorbeelde:
“In his well-known textbook on isotope geology, Gunter Faure explains the various radioactive dating methods, including the so-called isochron method. When the results for a number of rock samples are plotted on a graph and form a straight line, the researcher can calculate an age for the samples. But Faure warns his readers not to accept the calculated age without question. He gives an example of volcanic lava along the border of Uganda, Zaire and Rwanda, East Africa. That lava is known to be relatively young, possibly erupted within historical times, yet a rubidium-strontium straight-line isochron gave an age of 773 million years.”
“In another example, Okudaira measured isochron ages of a rock called amphibolite sampled from south-east India. With the rubidium-strontium method they obtained an age of 481 million years but with samarium-neodymium the age was almost double at 824 million years.”
“Another example involves a volcanic region in Southern India, a pluton. Using the lead-lead method, a whole-rock sample gave an age of 508 million years. With the potassium-argon method, samples of mica gave an age of 450 million years. Zircons using the uranium-lead method gave an age of 572 million years. Three different samples; three different methods; three different results.”
“It all centres on the discovery of human remains in sand dunes surrounding ancient Lake Mungo—now a dry, flat plain, vegetated by scraggly salt-tolerant bushes and grasses. The first major find, in 1969, was of crushed and burnt skeletal fragments, interpreted to be of a female called Mungo Woman. What made the find significant was the assigned date. Carbon-14 dating on the hard bone material yielded an age of 19,000 years and on soft tissue gave 24,700 years. But carbon-14 dating on nearby charcoal produced an ‘age’ up to 26,500 years. This meant that the skeleton, buried slightly lower than the charcoal, must have been older. Not surprisingly, the older charcoal age was considered to be the ‘most reliable’ estimate and launched Mungo Woman to national and international fame. Jane Balme, of the Centre for Archaeology at the University of Western Australia, put it succinctly, ‘There’s a general perception that there is a competition to get the oldest date...’
Then, in 1974, Bowler and Thorne found a skeleton in a grave only 450 metres away. Because the new skeleton, Lake Mungo 3, was found in the same sand bed (technically the same stratigraphic horizon), ‘he’ was assigned the same age as Mungo Woman. Thus Mungo Man became famous too—one of the world’s earliest ritual burials (even though the sex of the individual is still in dispute). The situation became even more exciting when a different dating method (thermoluminescence) was used. In 1998, Bowler reported that sand from the Mungo 3 site gave an age of some 42,000 years. Being older than the carbon-14 dates, Mungo Man acquired a new stature on the world evolution scene. So, the earlier ‘reliable’ carbon-14 ages were abandoned in favour of the thermoluminescence ones. Then, in 1999, Thorne (not to be outdone) and other scientists from the Australian National University published a new comprehensive study on the age of Mungo Man. They used different samples of bone and sand and different dating methods … Their conclusion? Mungo Man was 62,000 years old! Bowler and Magee described this 20,000-year stretch as ‘commendable in intent.’ There was just one small problem. The new date meant that the history of Australian occupation would have to be rewritten and it also affected the ideas of human evolution in other parts of the world. And Australian archaeologists were still embarrassed by the Jinmium rock shelter fiasco, where a claimed age of 116,000 years was later reduced to 5,000 years.” – só het dieselfde skelet in ouderdom gegroei van 19,000 jaar tot 62,000 jaar in die laboratorium…
“Rock samples from a lava dome within the Mount St Helens crater, USA, were dated using the potassium-argon method. Whole-rock samples gave an age of 350,000 years. When some of the amphibole minerals in the rock sample were extracted and analyzed separately, their age was more than double at 900,000 years. Two mineral samples of a different mineral, pyroxene, gave an age of 1,700,000 and 2,800,000 years. Which age is right? None, actually. The lava dome formed after Mount St Helens exploded in 1980 and the samples were just 10 years old.”
Skandelik! 'n Lagwekkende bedrogspul.
Dit is duidelik dat die dateringsmetodes veel te wense oorlaat weens die verskillende resultate wat dramaties verskil, maar misbruik word om datering so te manipuleer om datering binne die vooropgestelde raamwerk van die hipotese in te pas – en dit word wetenskap genoem? Knoeiwerk is die korrekte woord.
Hoe kan mens op enigiets staat maak wat darwiniste verkondig?
Groete,
Kobus de Klerk


Kommentaar
Lieg vir Jesus Kobus?
Jy kan nie eens lewende materiaal wat gefossiliseer het met C14 dateer nie Kobus.
Hoe dateer jy 'n diamant?
Verder gee jy geen verwysings nie.
Ek dink Jesus verdien beter Kobus.
Nee, delusie, nie lieg vir Jesus nie, maar wys leuens uit vir Jesus, ou domme. Toemaar, probeer maar nog, jy sal later die verskil wel agterkom.
Intussen gaan ek voort - om julle wanvoorstellings en onkunde uit te wys - en julle delusies....
En dan weer, hoe onwys van jou om met kundiges te stry - maar nou ja, jy is mos nie verniet selferkende delusioneel nie, of hoe?
Jy weet darem seker dat C-14 (anders as C-12) na ongeveer 57,000 jaar nie meer meetbaar is nie, of hoe? Blote fisika en fisiologie. C-14 in dooie materie ontbind stelsematig en verval na stikstof.
“For some years creation scientists have been doing their own investigation of radiocarbon in fossils. Pieces of fossilized wood in Oligocene, Eocene, Cretaceous, Jurassic, Triassic, and Permian rock layers supposedly 32–250 million years old all contain measurable radiocarbon, equivalent to “ages” of 20,700 to 44,700 years. (Creation geologists believe that with careful recalibration, even these extremely “young” time periods would be fewer than 10,000 years.) Similarly, carefully sampled pieces of coal from ten U.S. coal beds, ranging from Eocene to Pennsylvanian and supposedly 40–320 million years old, all contained similar radiocarbon levels equivalent to “ages” of 48,000 to 50,000 years. Even fossilized ammonite shells found alongside fossilized wood in a Cretaceous layer, supposedly 112–120 million years old, contained measurable radiocarbon equivalent to “ages” of 36,400 to 48,710 years.”
En ook
“Just as intriguing is the discovery of measurable radiocarbon in diamonds. Creationist and evolutionary geologists agree that diamonds are formed more than 100 miles (161 km) down, deep within the earth’s upper mantle, and do not consist of organic carbon from living things. Explosive volcanoes brought them to the earth’s surface very rapidly in “pipes.” As the hardest known natural substance, these diamonds are extremely resistant to chemical corrosion and external contamination. Also, the tight bonding in their crystals would have prevented any carbon-14 in the atmosphere from replacing any regular carbon atoms in the diamond. Yet diamonds have been tested and shown to contain radiocarbon equivalent to an “age” of 55,000 years. These results have been confirmed by other investigators. So even though these diamonds are conventionally regarded by evolutionary geologists as up to billions of years old, this radiocarbon has to be intrinsic to them. This carbon-14 would have been implanted in them when they were formed deep inside the earth, and it could not have come from the earth’s atmosphere. This is not such a problem for creationist scientists, but it is a serious problem for evolutionists.”
En nog:
“Evolutionary radiocarbon scientists have still not conceded that fossils, coals, and diamonds are only thousands of years old. Their uniformitarian (slow-and-gradual) interpretation requires that the earth’s rocks be millions or billions of years old. They still maintain that the carbon-14 is “machine background” contaminating all these tested samples. Among their proposed explanations is that the AMS instruments do not properly reset themselves between sample analyses. But if this were true, why would the instrument find zero atoms when no sample is in it? It should be noted that radiocarbon “ages” of up to 50,000 years don’t match the biblical time frame, either. The Flood cataclysm was only about 4,350 years ago. However, these young radiocarbon “ages” are far more in accord with the Bible’s account than the uniformitarian timescale. The discovery that diamonds have 55,000-year radiocarbon “ages” may help us unravel this mystery. Once radiocarbon is interpreted properly, it should help creationists date archaeological remains from post-Flood human history, showing how they fit within the Bible’s chronology.”
Moenie vir jou bekommer oor verwysings nie, delusie! Wouter sal vir jou daardie moeite doen en sommer nog meer ook, voorsien. Ons kan mos op hom staatmaak, of hoe?
Intussen kan julle kommentaar op meriete lewer (as julle die moed het) sónder om die boodskapper te probeer aftakel – soos delusie gedoen het - en dan kortkom, soos delusie, nou weereens. Dán kan ons sien net mooi hóé hulpeloos julle is sonder dat julle die boodskapper kan bykom.
Intussen bemerk ek ons agnostiese prosa-voordragkoortjie kom mooi aan - Kleinkosie het 'n refreintjie "so-en-so praat nie die waarheid nie" en delusietjie het 'n ander refreintjie "Lieg vir Jesus Kobus". Nou ja, hoe oulik. Die tweetjies oefen lekker en sal seker darem uiteindelik hulle refreintjies in verskillende stemmetjies kan afwissel. En so is daar nog vermaak ook van die spulletjie! Wat kan Woutertjie bydra?
Kobus de Klerk
Woutertjie het nou belangstelling verloor. Gaan jou goed Kobus De Klerk.
Werklikwaar idioties.
As iets gefosiliseer het, is die oorspronkike organiese materiaal vervang met minerale. So is daar in versteende hout GEEN hout oor nie.
En daarom is C14 toets nie moontlik op gefosiliseerde materiaal nie.
Dit kom daarvan as jy jou wetenskaplike kennis uit creation.com of in die Bybel probeer verkry.
Groete,
die "Domme"
Julle het werklik geen begrip of insig nie, het julle, Delusie?
Wat op aarde het dit met die chemiese aard van die hout fossiel te make? Dit is steeds gefossileerde hout, alhoewel dit ook weens blootstelling met ysterminerale deurpriem is.
Die houtfossielmonsters is na twee onafhanklike laboratoriums gestuur, sonder om vir hulle te sê waar dit gevind, is. Daarom het hulle by verstek die C14 metode ingespan.
Die eintlike punt is, indien daar wel C14 in die houtfossielmonster voorkom, beteken dit eenvoudig dit kan nie miljoene of biljoene jare oud wees, nie, omdat die koolstof eenvoudig afbreek (decay) na stikstof na duisende jare. Dus, as daar wel koolstof voorkom, kan die kalkbank laag nie so oud wees soos wat julle beweer, nie! Dus, die kalkbank laag waarin die gefossileerde hout gevind is, kan nie 183 miljoen jaar oud wees, soos julle geologiese tydskaal dit aangee, nie, want die hout fossiel daarin bevat steeds merkbare hoeveelhede koolstof en kon nie meer as ongeveer 22,000 jaar oud wees (koolstof breek vermoedelik heeltemal af oor die verloop van ongeveer 50,000 jaar), nie, omdat daar dan niks meer identifiseerbare koolstof in sou oorbly, nie!
Die kalkbank is gedateer as 183 miljoen jaar oud, omdat daar ook 'n sogenaamde indeksfossiel, die hoefvormige ammoniet dactylioceras tenuicostatum, wat na bewering in die vroeë Jurassiese era volgens jul tydskaal, tuishoort, daarin gevind is.
Dit beteken ook dat julle datering van die ammoniet ook verkeerd, is.
Dit beteken maar kortom, dat julle nie omgee om waninligting te verkwansel, nie, en dan ander mense as leuenaars en wanvoorstellers uit te skel.
Julle is klaarblyklik nie instaat om analities en logies te dink, nie. En julle het 'n voorliefde vir wanvoorstellings.
Kobus de Klerk